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    Scientists Just Discovered Magic at the Large Hadron Collider

    By University of AdelaideDecember 21, 202451 Comments3 Mins Read
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    Research from the LHC shows top quarks’ magic could be key to quantum computing advancements, potentially revolutionizing various technologies. Credit: SciTechDaily.com

    Researchers at the Large Hadron Collider have found that top quarks exhibit a property known as magic, which could advance quantum computing.

    The study, conducted by twin professors shows that the level of magic in top quarks can inform the necessity for quantum computers in simulations.

    Discovery of Magic in Particle Physics

    A brotherly research duo has discovered that when the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) produces top quarks – the heaviest known fundamental particles – it regularly creates a property known as magic.

    This finding, published in Physical Review D, has implications for the progression of quantum computing, with magic being a measure that describes how difficult a quantum system is for a non-quantum computer to calculate.

    Quantum Computing and the LHC

    “The higher the magic, the more we need quantum computers to describe the behavior,” explains Professor Martin White, from the University of Adelaide’s School of Physics, Chemistry and Earth Sciences, who co-led the study with his twin brother, Professor Chris White, a physicist from Queen Mary University of London.

    “Studying the magic properties of quantum systems generates significant insights into the development and potential uses of quantum computers.”

    Colliding Top Quarks
    The magic of a mixed top-antitop final state in (a) the qq channel and (b) the gg channel. Credit: University of Adelaide/Queen Mary University of London

    Insights from High-Energy Collisions

    The LHC is the world’s largest and most powerful particle accelerator, consisting of a 27-kilometer ring of superconducting magnets with a number of accelerating structures through which two high-energy particle beams travel at close to the speed of light before they are made to collide.

    The amount of magic exhibited by top quarks depends on how fast they are moving and their direction of travel, all of which can be measured by the ATLAS and CMS detectors that observe the results of the LHC proton collisions.

    Advancing Quantum Computing

    “Quantum research has long focused on entanglement, which is where particles become linked; however, our work on magic explores how well-suited particles are for building powerful quantum computers,” says Professor White.

    “The ATLAS experiment has already observed evidence of quantum entanglement. We have shown that the LHC can also observe more complex patterns of quantum behavior at the highest energies yet attempted for these kinds of experiments.”

    Impact on Quantum Technology

    For decades, scientists have strived to build quantum computers that leverage the laws of quantum mechanics to achieve far greater processing power than traditional computers.

    The potential benefits of quantum computers are vast, impacting fields like drug discovery and materials science. Harnessing this power requires robust and controllable quantum states, and magic plays a critical role in achieving that control.

    “Our research paves the way for a deeper understanding of the connection between quantum information theory and high-energy physics,” says Professor White.

    “This discovery is not just about the heaviest particles in the universe, it’s about unlocking the potential of a revolutionary new computing paradigm.”

    Reference: “Magic states of top quarks” by Chris D. White and Martin J. White, 18 December 2024, Physical Review D.
    DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevD.110.116016

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    51 Comments

    1. Nicholas Lonzi on December 21, 2024 4:51 pm

      They need to start helping the scientists with this and move on to bigger and Ƨ

      Reply
      • Dude perfect on December 22, 2024 9:55 am

        They??

        Reply
        • Babby Hill on December 22, 2024 6:08 pm

          Them

          Reply
          • Cathy on December 24, 2024 1:02 pm

            I think that they need to take a break and think this threw. With all this quantum business and trying to get to other dimensions have they ever considered what might be there we don’t know enough about that kind of thing and what we are looking at what if there’s deadly viruses that could kill the population they need to slow down and do more research this is to important to us all.

            Reply
            • Sheila on December 25, 2024 4:04 am

              I agree with Cathy to many unknowns puts us at great risk as a whole. I understand the want to advance in technology, but we have to be cautious not to repeat the past and destroy ourselves.

            • Peter on December 26, 2024 9:48 am

              If you don’t have a scientific mind, don’t comment about something you have no clue about.

            • Omgman on December 28, 2024 4:54 am

              There are so many things wrong with these statements…. Dimensions aren’t places, or portals. They are more like states of viewing matter, like being able to see the backside of a wall while seeing the face, depth and sides all at once (4 dimensions).

            • Doug on March 10, 2025 10:04 am

              Don’t explore that continent!

              There might be scary things there!

          • Christy on December 26, 2024 3:27 pm

            Thank you so very much for sharing the article is epic

            Reply
        • Ray Shewmaker on December 22, 2024 6:11 pm

          I second your we question ???They???

          Reply
          • Dr. Strange on January 4, 2025 8:08 am

            Yog Sothoth is scratching…

            Reply
        • Devasia n v on December 24, 2024 7:04 am

          Mind boggling findings !!!!

          Reply
          • The Ghost In The Machine on December 24, 2024 9:58 pm

            …… They’re here …….

            Reply
          • The Ghost In The Machine on December 24, 2024 9:59 pm

            …… They’re here …….

            Reply
            • James anderson on December 28, 2024 7:50 am

              Resurchers won’t stop until the cats out of the bag.
              When that happens, well ,,may God have mercy on us.

      • Toby D. on December 24, 2024 4:39 pm

        More initiatives

        Reply
    2. Bao-hua ZHANG on December 21, 2024 4:51 pm

      This discovery is about the heaviest particles in the universe.
      Ask the researcher:
      What is the basis for confirming the heaviest particle in the universe? Scientific research should be based on a solid mathematical foundation and experimental verification, rather than proposing bold but insufficiently validated theories just to attract attention. The scientific community should maintain its moral bottom line, ensuring that published research results are rigorously reviewed and meet scientific standards, in order to maintain public trust and respect for science.

      For example:
      A paper called ā€œQuestion of Parity Conservation in Weak Interactionsā€. Which published by Physical Review (PR) in October 1956. In which the question of parity conservation in β decays and in hyperon and meson decays is examined. Possible experiments are suggested which might test parity conservation in these interactions.
      However, there are not clear evidence to support the inference and the possible experiments.
      Here’s why,
      1. If we don’t understand how Īø & Ļ„ was formed, there will be no clear evidence to infer parity violation of them in weak interaction.
      2. There is no clear evidence to suggest that two sets of cobalt-60 can be transformed into symmetry by rotating in opposite directions. Similarly, the motion of two hydrogen atoms – electrons around the nucleus – may not necessarily be symmetrical at the same time, even via reverse rotation.
      The mathematics had clearly told us that the topological vortex gravitational field can evolve into a complex space-time structure from the cusp singularity. However, contemporary physics has always regarded understanding as muddle headed and been blindly inferring from unfounded assumptions. Wrong world outlook and scientific outlook may mislead a generation, even several generations.
      Topological vortex and its twin anti-vortex exhibit parity conservation (P), charge conjugation (C) and time reversal (T) symmetry. The physical real mirror image of nature can be exist between the topological vortex and its twin anti-vortex, not must be between the high-dimensional space-time matters formed by their interaction.
      It is meaningless to discuss the CP of two particles (or things) that are not mirror images of each other. This type of discussion is full of deception and misleading. Its absurd aspect lies in:
      1. Firstly, subjectively determine that two particles (or things) are mirror images of each other.
      2. Subsequently, experimental detection revealed that the two particles (or things) are asymmetric.
      The experiment showed that the previous subjective determination was incorrect. According to common sense, it should be concluded that the two particles (or things) are not mirror images of each other.
      However, physical science today does not do so. Their conclusion is:
      The two particles (or things) that are mirror images of each other are asymmetric.
      This blatant sophistry and misleading behavior is undoubtedly lacks the spirit of science.

      — –Extracted from https://scitechdaily.com/microscope-spacecrafts-most-precise-test-of-key-component-of-the-theory-of-general-relativity/#comment-811427.

      The groundbreaking results always published in the Physical Review series of publications. CP violation, God particles, Devil particles and Neutrinos are the spirit and hope of today’s physics.

      Reply
      • Jmo on December 22, 2024 1:27 am

        The top quark has been verified as the heaviest of sub-atomic particles. I may be wrong but I believe there is considerable hi energy particle research to back the claim.

        Reply
        • Bao-hua ZHANG on December 22, 2024 4:57 pm

          How is the heaviest defined in the universe?

          Scientific research guided by correct theories can help people avoid detours, failures, and exaggeration. The physical phenomena observed by researchers in experiments are always appearances, never the natural essence of things. The natural essence of things needs to be extracted and sublimated based on mathematical theories via appearances , rather than being imagined arbitrarily.

          Everytime scientific revolution, the scientific research space brought by the new paradigm expands exponentially. Physics should not ignore the analyzable physical properties of topological vortices.
          (1) Traditional physics: based on mathematical formalism, experimental verification and arbitrary imagination.
          (2) Topological Vortex Theory (TVT): Although also based on mathematics (such as topology), it focuses more on non intuitive geometry and topological structures, challenging traditional physical intuition.

          Topological Vortex Theory (TVT) points out the limitations of the Standard Model in describing the large-scale structure of the universe, proposes the need to consider non-standard model components such as dark matter and dark energy, and suggests that topological vortex fields may be key to understanding these phenomena. Topological vortex theory (TVT) heralds innovative technologies such as topological electronics, topological smart batteries, topological quantum computing, etc., which may bring low-energy electronic components, almost inexhaustible currents, and revolutionary computing platforms, etc.

          Dual and Twist are closely related to topological spin. Topological spins create everything, topological spins shape the world.
          If anyone is interested in science, they can browse https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/4659236468.

          Reply
        • Lmfao on December 23, 2024 12:03 am

          It must be awful rough on the bottom to have such a heavy quark on top of him …

          Reply
      • Kevin Kanter on December 22, 2024 4:26 pm

        You seem to question the moral philosophy of pub like Physical Review …. & end with phrase “spirit and hope of today’s physics.”.butthen you go on about a 1956 paper to make some argument. Why not just address the magic ? This is useless verbiage.

        Reply
        • Bao-hua ZHANG on December 22, 2024 5:12 pm

          Why is that?
          Ask yourself.
          What is science? What is pseudoscience? Is topological vortex mathematical? Is topological vortices pseudoscience? Is vortex a physical reality? Are the vortices in nature necessarily unrelated to topological vortices?

          Dual and Twist are closely related to topological spin. Topological spins create everything, topological spins shape the world.
          If anyone is interested in science, they can browse https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/4659236468.

          Reply
      • The Gross on December 24, 2024 8:48 pm

        Rest assured there will be a time in which Time itself becomes the basis for further timeless research.

        Reply
      • jEn sZ on December 25, 2024 12:28 pm

        I dunno, but I feel your hesitation is the same as the last two comments prior to yours. You just worded your outrage differently. I guess we can theorize what outcomes may be. But until you know, what good does it actually make? Little steps I guess, but always forward.
        Well, until we can go back lol
        Still, forward though

        Reply
    3. Boba on December 21, 2024 6:16 pm

      They’re magically wasting taxpayer’s money pretending they’re doing important science.

      Reply
      • Steve on December 21, 2024 6:41 pm

        Lol spoken like the product of sisters and brothers offspring

        Reply
      • Rhonda Newcombe on December 22, 2024 4:39 am

        I found the replies interesting, and very informative. As I am not a scientist, but intelligent enough to be keeping an eye on the goings on, with the department of lab coats and dangerous tools, toys, ohhhh devices for unraveling the framework of everything and nothing all in a split quark. Heavy stuff. I hope all goes well with the little smashed atom’s.

        Reply
        • Micki on December 23, 2024 2:25 pm

          Well spoken. I like Toys, I mean devices but what’s about this “magic” now and how can we conjure it? That’s the real question we should be asking now that we have proof there’s of magic. After we figure that out, things are going to get real. I believe. Always have.

          Reply
      • George of the Jungle on December 22, 2024 4:49 am

        Amen. šŸ™šŸ½šŸ™šŸ½šŸ™šŸ½.

        Reply
        • Socratic1 on December 29, 2024 8:37 am

          Science is all about challenging the known and unknown so if you believe you already know everything, scientific research just isn’t for you.

          Reply
      • Rob Wilson on February 16, 2025 7:37 am

        Yes. Maybe let’s fire all the scientists like Elon hopes. It’s terribly inefficient to stay at the leading edge of Science with the rest of the developed nations.

        Reply
    4. Jay on December 21, 2024 6:44 pm

      Do you believe in magic in the LHC? How the top quarks collide whenever it starts
      And it’s magic in the head on collision
      And it makes you happy cuz you write a paper
      You tell me about the magic but it’s just not free
      but it’s like trying to tell a Martian about infinities.

      Reply
      • Chad Young on December 27, 2024 9:17 am

        Excuse me.
        Why are we doing all of this? I’m all for exploration of the Universe, but- I don’t even know what Universe these scientists are in at this point.
        ..and if you say ‘Quantum Computing,’ then I will again ask- Why?
        Because really. This obsessive-Compulsive carpet mining ā›ļø particle physics nightmare has to have its end somewhere, somehow.

        Reply
    5. Brian on December 21, 2024 7:36 pm

      Do yourself and everyone a favor, and stop calling it “magic”. It’s not magic, and you just sound stupid. I cannot take this seriously.

      Reply
      • Mr. Bucket on December 23, 2024 3:11 am

        I agree, calling it magic sounds ridiculous. I’m guessing they think it sounds catchy, but all they are doing is making me not take them seriously. I’d have more respect for them if they just called it “captain planet power”, that way at least we’d know you were being silly on purpose.

        Reply
      • Angela on December 23, 2024 5:09 am

        🤣 I can’t with you 🤣

        Reply
    6. Truth on December 22, 2024 4:23 am

      Science is just another religion.
      Genius ideas that are 100% false and are only approximations.

      Reply
      • George of the Jungle on December 22, 2024 4:51 am

        Your Delusional. Probably a Elon musky and Trump supporter. Freaking Delusional!! Nothing to do with Religion. Weirdo..

        Reply
        • DEI is the way to enlightenment on December 23, 2024 1:34 am

          Oh from the no one ever voted for me. Kamala supporter.

          Reply
      • Anonymous on December 23, 2024 11:54 am

        I agree in part with this statement. Some science is on solid ground, but others like cosmology, astrophysics, and archeaology, are based on presumptions and are quite false. I can respect any scientist that says “We don’t know, but here’s a theory we come up with.”; but instead we get “This is fact and there is no god!”

        Reply
        • Do on December 29, 2024 11:48 am

          ⁹archeology is pretty solid.

          Reply
      • Roy Walker on March 8, 2025 7:49 am

        Do you have a cell phone,
        Science did that

        Reply
    7. UNbekonst2ME on December 22, 2024 6:40 am

      Some articles truly inform. Thisone has a couple of short sentences that deliver the profundity and could have been all it took, but it was a waste of my time; “ā€œThe ATLAS experiment has already observed evidence of quantum entanglement. We have shown that the LHC can also observe more complex patterns of quantum behavior at the highest energies yet attempted for these kinds of experiments.ā€

      While this is important to our future, just say it and get it over with…..OR…..show all the reasons where this will be implicated and fostered.

      Reply
    8. Sun on December 22, 2024 6:48 am

      ‘ You’re ‘
      Please enlighten Us, with your vast knowledge obvious polymath!!! Perhaps use logic instead of add Hominem . Don’t be so frank with statements that only present you as illiterate.

      Reply
    9. StonedForumGuy on December 22, 2024 5:56 pm

      This forums banter quarked into a scene from The Big Bang Theory at the end. Love the Sheldon Sass

      Reply
    10. D. S. Gavant on December 23, 2024 2:30 pm

      In the new LHC findings, ā€œmagicā€ is presented as a measure of computational complexity linked to wave-like quantum behavior in top quarks. However, Dynamic Present Theory (DPT) contends that the wave-particle interpretation is a misinterpretation of the data. Under DPT, the interference patterns seen in two-slit experiments arise from fixed mathematical constraints on particle trajectories rather than any intrinsic wave nature. Likewise, so-called quantum entanglement occurs due to the correlated outcome of particles sharing the same mathematical set while also being measured at the same time. No need for faster than light travel or “spooky” interactions.
      Referring to these correlations as ā€œmagicā€ trivializes the underlying physics. Instead, DPT suggests using continuous present actualization (CPA) to frame all results within a single causal structure. From this perspective, ā€œmagicā€ in top quarks reflects computational complexity rather than genuine wave-based phenomena, offering a more coherent interpretation of quantum behavior in high-energy experiments.

      DPT theory offers a simple, logical, and empirically verifiable path to unification. Feedback welcome: Zenodo.org/records/13935996

      Reply
    11. D. S. Gavant on December 23, 2024 2:39 pm

      Addendum to the above comment: I should say risks “trivializing” the underlying physics. Simplifying is good. To wit, answers to some of the biggest puzzles in physics turn out to be quite simple, even obvious in hindsight…

      Reply
      • Elle on December 24, 2024 11:21 pm

        How about replacing magic with witchcraft instead or voodoo, yes I like that one best as far as absurd names go.

        Reply
      • Carl on March 4, 2025 8:51 pm

        In the double slit experiment, why does it change when viewed?

        Reply
    12. Willy on December 25, 2024 5:00 am

      Call it Santa’s magic dust

      Reply
    13. Assman on December 25, 2024 8:49 am

      The big bang theory is of course ridiculous as all the other matter that is left out of the equation. There is no God. Control and he who wields it is the main factors.

      Reply
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